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[...] Liar, liar, but employee’s not fired. An employee admitted she forged a document. After an investigation by HR, the final decision was [...]

By: Neil

Neil — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:49:04 +0000

I don’t see where there was “forgery” in the above incident. I’m reading that she wrote a “letter that appeared to be written by an anonymous parking lot attendant”, in other words an anonymous letter written in a way to preclude any connection to the actual writer. Had it actually been a forged letter she would most certainly have been fired. Considering the fact that she felt so strongly a need to disclose an obvious wrongdoing by the director (obvious because he was fired) and her concern for not losing her job, she did what she felt was justified.

By: Legal Beagle

Legal Beagle — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:37:43 +0000

Although her employer may not have found her actions sufficient to fire her, she is still a member of the state bar. As an attorney, she, like all attorneys, are subject to certain Rules of Professional Conduct and a state disciplinary review board. I would be surprised if someone had not reported this incident. Even were she not disbarred, her actions certainly seem unethical and subject to some disciplinary review.

By: Cherene

Cherene — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:57:49 +0000

I apologize. I should have proofread this before sending submit. I meant to say “she would have taken several courses on ethics in law school….”

By: Cherene

Cherene — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:55:58 +0000

She is an attorney and ethics is of the utmost importance! She was taught several course on ethics in law school and would have to be tested on it to pass the bar. I guarantee forgery is not taught as an acceptable practice. This woman should have been fired and shame on the government for coming up with excuses not to.

By: PCM

PCM — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:13:01 +0000

I must say I don’t agree with the method the lawyer used and I don’t see in the article where the director was innocent. In all the years I’ve had any knowledge of whistle blowers and guilty parties, I’ve never seen a whistle blower get rewarded (usually they are marked as trouble makers) and I’ve never seen guilty parties punished. I have seen guilty parties PROMOTED out of their current positions to cure the problem. It was a joke at the city I worked for, “want a promotion? have some serious complaints made about you”
If the allegations were true the director should have been fired and that decision upheld. The lawyer’s career was probably in the can anyway after her actions were exposed.

By: Tina

Tina — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:16:15 +0000

That is the most ridiculous excuse I’ve ever heard (the reason she forged the letter). Unfortunately, people seem to be able to lie about others, which required an investigation, and still keep their job too (this happened in my company). So, I guess it’s not all that unusual…

By: M H Newton

M H Newton — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:25:53 +0000

Pray for a miracle, God will help you to get through the difficult time. The truth is always come out. Please talk to counselors and friends so you will get new ideas and find justice sooner or find a different job. I was in your shoes many times and was framed for something that I didn’t do or was treated unfairly at work for more than 20 years and until now. However, when I look back at the ones who harmed me in the past, I feel sorry for them and their families. The prices they paid for their sins were high. I now try to hang on my job for few more years so I can take early retirement and pension. I hope the conscience of the ones who harm you are eating them alive.

By: Joei Sanches

Joei Sanches — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:06:58 +0000

This reminds me of the job that I was just terminated from…I was the former Finance Director as my former boss forged my name to withdrawl over $300(k) from annuity accounts. When called on the forged documentation he said oh go ahead and push the paperwork on through the company does not know she was terminated (3 months later). Also, the police will not even investigate this case due to a pending lawsuit I have against the City…..Any one with some ideas…

By: Larry

Larry — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:15:46 +0000

Government Ethics is an oxymoron.